I just tried the Myth II 1.5.1 with wine. It works after changing abosolute=1 in the code as http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-bu ... 27503.html suggests.
I only have the original linux-version of Myth II. I got the data files to work with 1.5.1 by removing empty directories from the 1.5.1-install and symlinking all files and directories from the linux-version:
cd ~/".wine/drive_c/Program Files/Myth II"
ln -s /path/to/linux/version/myth2/* .
Would it be too difficult to compile a native linux-version of the new Myth II? At least you should have all the source code from Loki. (See http://www.lokigames.com front page)
Myth II in linux with or without wine
Hello again.
I tried the 1.6 build 286 with wine-0.9.29.
I didn't play it yet, just tried that I can start the campaign and the tutorial. Since my last post the mouse behaviour in wine has been fixed and playing Myth doesn't require changing wine source any more.
A few notices:
-1.6 needs SMACKW32.DLL which can be downloaded from dll-files.com
-unlike 1.5, 1.6 needs the Graphics->Emulate a virtual desktop turned off in winecfg
-1.6 won't start in with wine in the windowed mode. Removing preferences/screen preferences file will get it started again.
-1.5 gives me a good amount of resolutios in the range of 640x480 to 1600x1200, but 1.6 gives only 1440x900
Are there some differences in how 1.5 and 1.6 detect the available resolutions?
The only hint I get from the error messages is that with
1.6 it says:
fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_CreateSurface Wanted to get surface dimensions from window 0x10024, but it has only a size of 0x0. Using full screen dimensions
And with 1.5 it doesn't. See line 2262 of http://source.winehq.org/source/dlls/ddraw/ddraw.c
I tried the 1.6 build 286 with wine-0.9.29.
I didn't play it yet, just tried that I can start the campaign and the tutorial. Since my last post the mouse behaviour in wine has been fixed and playing Myth doesn't require changing wine source any more.
A few notices:
-1.6 needs SMACKW32.DLL which can be downloaded from dll-files.com
-unlike 1.5, 1.6 needs the Graphics->Emulate a virtual desktop turned off in winecfg
-1.6 won't start in with wine in the windowed mode. Removing preferences/screen preferences file will get it started again.
-1.5 gives me a good amount of resolutios in the range of 640x480 to 1600x1200, but 1.6 gives only 1440x900
Are there some differences in how 1.5 and 1.6 detect the available resolutions?
The only hint I get from the error messages is that with
1.6 it says:
fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_CreateSurface Wanted to get surface dimensions from window 0x10024, but it has only a size of 0x0. Using full screen dimensions
And with 1.5 it doesn't. See line 2262 of http://source.winehq.org/source/dlls/ddraw/ddraw.c
There's two versions of 1.6 for Windows. The "1.6 Modern/Windowed" is the default in the installer (when running WinXP/2k), and does change significantly how Myth II interacts with the OS. But, there's also "1.6 Classic", and this interacts in the same way as 1.5.1 did.
Even on Windows, different people having different luck with either of these two versions.
You can try the other one (Classic) to see if you can get better results with it. Good luck.
Even on Windows, different people having different luck with either of these two versions.
You can try the other one (Classic) to see if you can get better results with it. Good luck.
I tried the classic version and everything works as expected.
Even the (wine-)bug where returning to main menu causes
X-server to eat 400 megabytes of memory for a while. (That doesn't happen in the modern 1.6)
I guess the 1440x900 was chosen as only resolution because it was the only 60Hz resolution in the mode list provided by xrandr.
When I looked into it, I found out that the xrandr information was bogus. It was caused by the DynamicTwinView setting of the nvidia driver. I turned that off and the modern 1.6 started to work with other resolutions too. It still doesn't start in windowed mode, but that doesn't bother me much.
Anyway, thanks for the upgrade. I hope somebody will some day have the time to fix the few remaining wine bugs and fixmes that affect myth II. Then you would be able to easily compile a linux-version using winelib.
Even the (wine-)bug where returning to main menu causes
X-server to eat 400 megabytes of memory for a while. (That doesn't happen in the modern 1.6)
I guess the 1440x900 was chosen as only resolution because it was the only 60Hz resolution in the mode list provided by xrandr.
When I looked into it, I found out that the xrandr information was bogus. It was caused by the DynamicTwinView setting of the nvidia driver. I turned that off and the modern 1.6 started to work with other resolutions too. It still doesn't start in windowed mode, but that doesn't bother me much.
Anyway, thanks for the upgrade. I hope somebody will some day have the time to fix the few remaining wine bugs and fixmes that affect myth II. Then you would be able to easily compile a linux-version using winelib.
More hints regarding Myth II in linux+wine
With the latest wine 0.9.33, Myth II (1.6 modern) seems to work a bit better than one or two wine versions ago. Now I'm able to use all the screen settings without crashing. (except direct3d of course)
Some notes:
If there is fast blinking black and white garbage on the game, but it runs and works fine otherwise, nvidia users should try to disable the "Allow Flipping" in nvidia-settings. Moving the game window or not playing in fullscreen might help too.
Myth II will also work on an x86_64 linux system. To compile wine, install 32bit libraries and development files (no 32bit chroot required!) and ./configure, etc. should work just the same way as in the 32 bit world.
CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION must be enabled in kernel config.
If Myth II stops to work after upgrading wine or anything else, try deleting "preferences/screen preferences".
Some notes:
If there is fast blinking black and white garbage on the game, but it runs and works fine otherwise, nvidia users should try to disable the "Allow Flipping" in nvidia-settings. Moving the game window or not playing in fullscreen might help too.
Myth II will also work on an x86_64 linux system. To compile wine, install 32bit libraries and development files (no 32bit chroot required!) and ./configure, etc. should work just the same way as in the 32 bit world.
CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION must be enabled in kernel config.
If Myth II stops to work after upgrading wine or anything else, try deleting "preferences/screen preferences".
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Suggestions: This thread be stickied, or a new sticky thread created summarising the info here. In other words it'd be good to have something permanently visible & easy to find that demonstrates how to get it running with Wine under linux.
Also, a similar thread should be posted to the comments section for Myth II on happypenguin.org and other similar sites.
Also, a similar thread should be posted to the comments section for Myth II on happypenguin.org and other similar sites.
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If it can be run on Wine, there is a good chance it runs on http://www.reactos.org too.
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Well I have one Windows Machine with 1.6 on it, and I can play on Mariusnet with that one. I was just going to try to get the rest running Myth II native. I'll go the Wine route if I have to though, kinda makes me feel silly though.
Oh well, at least I'll have a new manual and box to look at instead of an old scratched up disc.
Oh well, at least I'll have a new manual and box to look at instead of an old scratched up disc.
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Issue with running it in wine:
The good news is that it loads the menus fine, connects to Marius net, all that good jazz, but if I try to start it with, it fails with a capital F. No load bar, just a black screen. Has this happened to anyone else?
Also, my Windows machine can't host, and I have everything wide open on it. I'll search elsewhere for ideas to fix that, but if there's a one line answer, help would be <3'd.
The good news is that it loads the menus fine, connects to Marius net, all that good jazz, but if I try to start it with, it fails with a capital F. No load bar, just a black screen. Has this happened to anyone else?
Also, my Windows machine can't host, and I have everything wide open on it. I'll search elsewhere for ideas to fix that, but if there's a one line answer, help would be <3'd.