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how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby juliocpaes » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:25 pm

I mean, just how do painting a color so detailed ? What is the tool it's used ? have any method on photoshop or a paint.net....
I know how to paint a map, but it's a lot without details. :o

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because, my color maps it is very bad, a crap ... :facepalm:

https://youtu.be/Lb2eVL0am6o

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Re: how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby Point » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:48 am

photoshop or bryce or any paint or 3d program that you can load textures into...
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Re: how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby Industry » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:32 am

And remember Bungie had professional artists working on these for days. For my crappy unreleased maps I use GIMP because it's at least as feature rich as Photoshop was in 1998. Also, check out the pinned post in this very forum from Deadman about mapmaking. He put it up there after I tracked him down and asked him to explain how he made his maps so amazing (I still haven't been able to come close to his work though)
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Re: how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby juliocpaes » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:28 am

Industry wrote:And remember Bungie had professional artists working on these for days. For my crappy unreleased maps I use GIMP because it's at least as feature rich as Photoshop was in 1998. Also, check out the pinned post in this very forum from Deadman about mapmaking. He put it up there after I tracked him down and asked him to explain how he made his maps so amazing (I still haven't been able to come close to his work though)


Yep ! Deadman, he make TFL Plugin "Ghôl Rugby" w/ good color maps. :)
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Re: how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby KYRIC » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:58 pm

To make a map like this is super easy.

Just open whatever map(s) you like in Photoshop

- set mode to RGB
- create a new layer
- select clone tool and choose a gritty chalk brush
- set clone source to below
- sample grass/base texture
- clone all the grass/base texture to however you want
- hide layer and create a new one
- now just select different parts/adjust clone brush size for mountains, water/beach

- duplicate and rotate the original map layer by 90 degrees so it doesn't get blurry to sample different angles. Although you might be able to get away with warping/etc these days since you are going to reindex, and especially if you are going to use detail textures.

- when your near done and have screwed up some of the colors, create a new layer and set the blend mode to color and paint over all the parts that are weird.

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However you DO NOT want to make maps like this with the new DTex system.

Those bungie maps don't look good with DTex because the details (especially in the rocks) end up looking like dark holes/stripes/spots at best and at worst are way, way too dark when the shadow is applied to them.

You want your maps and colors to be low contrast and somewhat bland.

IN FACT, I recommend...
- Select a map you like and applying a surface blur or a dust and scratches (to REMOVE all the details)

- Then map/clone/paint the remaining edges of you map to a grid the size of DTex (can't remember the size right now). This is so the DTex will align better.

You want to create custom DTex that are high contrast by using camera raw and curves

IE, DO NOT create little flowers and rocks in your color map, create them as HR sprites (even if they don't move or animate or are flat as patches) and then secondly as DTex.

You can see with my grass example of how all the details are really in the DTex and it's pointless to have them in the color map:

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Re: how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby juliocpaes » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:19 am

KYRIC,

Thank you for the detailed explanation :)

julio.
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Re: how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby KYRIC » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:01 am

juliocpaes wrote:KYRIC,

Thank you for the detailed explanation :)

julio.


Yeah I wasn't sure it was all that useful, but check out this thread for something that might be more useful.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7044&p=69974#p69974
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Re: how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby juliocpaes » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:57 am

Kyric,

why you are not in the list of authors? Already up loud ?

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Re: how do a paint in a color map like this ... ?

Postby KYRIC » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:18 pm

I have finished the template yet... kinda want it to be good for noobs.
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